In episode 127 of the Leader of Learning Podcast, Dr. Dan Kreiness (@dr_kreiness) interviews Todd Nesloney (@techninjatodd), a former teacher and principal, current Director of Culture and Strategic Leadership for the Texas Elementary Principals and Supervisors Association (TEPSA), and co-author of several books, including the very popular Kids Deserve It and When Kids Lead. In the episode, Todd discusses what the transition was like going straight from a classroom teacher to a principal, how to lead change and turnaround efforts, how to build trust among the staff, and how important it is to be vulnerable as a leader.