In episode 131 of the Leader of Learning Podcast, Dr. Dan Kreiness (@dr_kreiness) interviews Dr. Christopher Jones (@DrCSJones), an award-winning principal from Massachusetts, host of the Seeing to Lead podcast, and author of an upcoming book on school leadership. In the episode, Chris discusses how he practices learner- or teacher-centered leadership and his philosophy on SEEing (Support, Empower, and Engage) to lead.